RE: Guess the city / Errate die Stadt #341.1 [en/de]

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RE: Guess the city / Errate die Stadt #341.1 [en/de]

noctury in Deutsch D-A-CH • 3 days ago

Sure i got your points. But to be honest if you take a deeper look the rewards are not fair and based on quality. It has influence, but it is not a major factor. Also i had to do a bit more than just to generate an image. Giving hints to all participants. Choosing a city which was never used yet etc. Of course it is not comparable with a whole Story Telling post, but it still takes more time than it pays out in hive :).

As i already wrote before i will refrain from doing anything like this further. But i am not the problem if at all a symptom.

3 days ago in Deutsch D-A-CH by noctury

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acidyo 3 days ago

the influence in this matter has proven to be easily gained as we've seen with giveaway posts with even less effort than yours, for instance. Many just really don't value their time. Still doesn't mean hive stakeholders should reward and incentivize such activities, or else we'd see them pop up more and more.

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noctury 2 days ago

Yes this would of course be bad. When i joined the raffle side i added tickets, coded some scripts for rewards etc. - just to make it something more. at this time there were so many bad raffles.

When i joined hive it was full of them so for me it seemed the way to be esp. with a developer background.

Now there are not that many giveaways anymore. But still you have this zillions of x!$$12 tokens that post their weekly / daily stats. Living from the tulip bubble, while paying out adopters with the hive from the ones that buy it.

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acidyo 2 days ago

A few giveaway posts here and there should be accepted, but when it's the main thing people do I'd rather see them forfeit author rewards because they shouldn't be profitable. It just extracts value from hive stakeholders without putting in any effort to give some meaning to the rewards, thus they're easily traded off for something else cause you got them for close to no effort/time investment.

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noctury 2 days ago

Sure i completely understand and agree. I just wanted to point out that there are many other schemes beside giveaways with a repetitive pattern (and if it is token based you even get votes from your "investors").

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acidyo 2 days ago

yeah, like eds or hsbi, they're hard to tackle however, you're the asshole if you start downvoting people while the projects aren't that much affected themselves as they've already gotten paid. They're also very spread out already so you'd have to start downvoting thousands of users potentially. I don't think they even let people sell their hsbi tokens back to then but not sure about that. All we can do for now is track and downvote the most extreme cases of low effort content since they themselves don't bother doing any curation.

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noctury 2 days ago

I like that i can discuss this with you an non emotional manner. I would not condemn anyone who tries things out on the chain. It is in my opinion just normal. It evolves with the people and people evolve too. at the end it is still all up to the stakeholders.

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