You are literally buying votes for your posts, I don't know how you're trying to defend your actions but I'm done being nice about it at this point.
https://he.dtools.dev/tx/b863c66c3d7d414f55dc5653b366f81c9ec72a2c
Selfvoting this for visibility and burning comment post rewards.
neoxiancityvb (we receive NEOXAG tokens from this but haven't used them for voting).
Oh, really?
Then why are you sending vote requests to the bot daily? Stop Lying!
You are doing 4 minimum/no effort posts daily. I wonder why? Oh, wait! Just to get those automated votes 4 times a day.
https://peakd.com/@hive-140084/posts
https://peakd.com/@freecompliments/posts
https://peakd.com/@fc-rewards/posts
https://peakd.com/@fc-curation/posts
I literally wrote within the same sentence that I used my own NEOXAG tokens for those, the ones that I earned on this account from my delegation. I didn't use the community account's NEOXAG for this.
That does constitute a difference: that I'm contributing to the community account. Using the neoxiancityvb does not automatically mean self-voting, it's just choosing which post to upvote in exchange for NEOXAG.
I appreciate the specifics, and everyone here trying to keep the conversation productive.
I think its healthy for the ecosystem to have these discussions, it does seem as if some of these services have gone "too far", and then with layering....
But - it was "peace time", people did things, built "services". And some more creative than others it seems.
For me, we should consider a few things
all in all - you started the conversation. So, let's ALL talk about it!
Hive = Votes, no reason for it to be so mysterious.
Hive = Votes
okay but votes don't always equal curation, this could be said about autovoting, blind voting and vote trading and there's issues with all of them to a certain degree. The bigger issue is however vote buying, you offer something that's not the content you've produced, the effort you've put into the chain or other "labor" related value to a service/stakeholder/account to get them to give you a vote. You're getting less than 50% rewards from that vote because you paid for it with something else that had value hive/tokens and that voter gets more than 50% of the vote so he's now earning more than other stakeholders and the author may not have gotten the vote in the first place had they not paid for it - win-win for those 2 parties and lose-lose for others.
I like it way better when ideas are the ones doing the "fighting!"
I really do need to work today hahaha, but I will do my best on all sides to "set a productive tone" around this whole thing.
These are old ideas, just cause no one's bothered to tell some of these projects to lay off with such activity until now doesn't mean it's something innovative and experimental when we've been through it many times before and can quite literally see what would happen if we'd let it grow: https://steemit.com/trending
Acidyo! You have no idea how close to home this hits with me!
This is literally "bespoke building" , just in an idea sense! This is my bread and butter!
If we going to do something, and it "fails" - at least lets learn the lessons!
ok, idk about everybody else, but I feel strongly that OPEN COMMUNICATION is good, needs to happen and is now happening. (moar podcasts hehehe)
Well done, @acidyo:
Brilliant "work" like this ensures the Hive blockchain will continue to fade away, as it has been since I decided it was a good idea to begin publishing content in 2018.
Followed years later by "voting" with my feet and removing approximately $30,000 in value from this blockchain. As stated many times, during those years, I was capable of having a much higher stake.
Not only is that opportunity past, I personally have advised against investing into this blockchain, within the network of investors with whom I have some influence.
You cannot make a credible case any clear-minded investor would put their hard-earned money at risk, by investing into value destroying behavior like what you have initiated. Only made possible by what is inherently a fundamentally (fatally, I would argue) flawed design.
I am trying to understand your interest in hive blockchain:)
According to you; you already sold. We collectively pushed you out. So be it.
If hive fades away or not, please tell me how is it any of your business anymore? If I were you, I would not worry about these useless mundane things and focus on retirement hobbies. Just saying.
Why? Why have you chosen to invest your valuable time in asking me this question?
Look. I have known you for a while. You are a nice gentleman.
If you want to be involved, do so. But you can't have any impact here without a stake. That is the way this place is.
It is all upto you. I personally don't care about empty words like:
mass adoption
value add
I could have brought 10 people
I invested $30K, and now I am out
None of these mean anything to me. I have heard these a lot of times from a lot of people. This is all part of a playbook.
So do whatever you please, but don't expect anyone will listen to you or that you will make a slightest bit of difference.
You have freedom of speech. Talk/write all you want.
Good, @azircon. In extracting this:
"You have freedom of speech. Talk/write all you want."
Some common ground, upon which we can agree.
also since we are on this particular user's blog (who I do not know and clueless about his problem): yet I predicted this 14 hours ago
and here is the popular and predictable "end of the road" post :)
https://peakd.com/hive-140084/@freecompliments/this-is-the-end-of-the-road-9dy
Damn! I hate to be right all the time!
PS. This is why I all this a 'playbook'.
Appreciate your words, Rob. It's interesting how acidyo labels me as a the abuser when his own poshtoken is upvoting its own spam comments for hundreds of dollars per day, while I'm actually using the funds the community account earns to help others build with HSBI. Yes, I understand their point about "buying votes" but at least it was being used to help other members. Now, this will no longer be the case.
I'm leaving the social part of the blockchain.
Cling on to the poshtoken branch, I'm sure it's hard to grasp what those rewards are used to when you don't try. hint: it's doing more for this ecosystem than most communities on hive do.
There's tons of reasons to want to buy hive stake and use it well in the form of curation and attention. Take a look at @theycallmedan who has bought millions of Hive and curates responsibly, no one has an issue with how he uses his stake and he's built many tools and services and big projects that may drive hive forward in many ways and the community respects and rewards him in many different ways.
He's not selling votes however nor buying votes. How is that difficult to comprehend?
I don't know your full history as to what made you leave hive, I glanced at the post you linked mentions of hivewatchers and they may not be perfect, no one is, but blatantly ignoring the one thing that makes hive unique and abusing it for your own gain and pointing towards people trying to combat such activity for the health of the platform as the reason token price is dropping is straight up delusion. Best of luck.
Attacking my integrity as a community builder, then proceeding to destroy the earnings of the FC community account because you have a problem with me is being nice? You literally set out to destroy myself and my community. If you think this is nice, then you seriously lack some basic understanding of social skills.
But go ahead and keep patting yourself on the back as you continue destroying communities on Hive in favor of centralizing control for yourself and your small group of Hive friends. This is a big part of the reason that the community aspect of Hive is failing. You don't even realize how many people you chase away. It's such a shame too, because Hive could truly thrive.
There's a definite intermediate between Steem and how you've approached this entire situation. You've chosen the extreme method - to destroy. You're not innocent, and only those friends of yours who benefit the same way you do will come to your defense.
Ait you're repeating yourself at this point, I gave you enough time to react and reconsider, you wanted to continue buying votes (as you did even on this post ironically). I'm not going to beg people to stop being greedy and shit on the one thing that makes this place stand out. If you can't handle that and don't wanna accept getting returns from curation rewards and look to earn the author rewards in legitimate ways then good riddance.