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crrdlx 8 months ago

I'm not sure I entirely understand what's being asked here, but I think you're wondering if someone on nostr can zap to the v4v wallet. My understanding is this:
-no, zaps are simply sats between two wallets that are linked to a nostr client. The zap just handles the send/receive under the table. Someone on nostr couldn't do that to Hive; there's no zap button on Hive.
-I thought you could send "keepsats" from any lightning network wallet to v4v (not sure what keepsats are exactly, my guess is sats held in escrow by 4v4). But, my test failed using coinos.io and cashu.me to savvytester@sats.4v4.app It seemed to pick up you and your avatar, but just kept spinning when I hit send. Maybe the QR code would work (though I'm not sure they are persistent). Share your v4v QR and I'll try again that way.

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savvyplayer 8 months ago

@savvytester wants to know if a V4V wallet can be used as the Lightning Wallet for receiving #Nostr zaps, so that they can help assist @tydynrain in properly setting up an LN wallet for Nostr to start receiving zaps there. 🤯

I think that technically, someone could implement "zap on Hive" for tipping Bitcoin Lightning anywhere (particularly on posts and comments) by creating an app for it (either as a standalone app, or building on top of other platforms such as V4V). 🤓

Anyway, I wonder what would happen if you tried to send sats tosavvytester@v4v.app instead of savvytester@sats.4v4.app (if you haven't already). 😅

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tydynrain 8 months ago

If it works, the @sats.v4v.app keeps the sats in the V4V wallet, while the @v4v.app sends them directly to your Hive wallet. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 8 months ago

I'll ask @savvytester to put some sats on their V4V wallet to start testing (since they really love testing !INDEED), though with a low amount of HIVE (or HBD) to put there, they might lose a lot in fees, so they might not be able to test it right away. 🤓🤯😅

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tydynrain 8 months ago

That sounds great, and also very appropriate. It uses the lightning network, which is designed to be able to send small amounts of sats. I look forward to hearing how it goes, whenever it is tested. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 8 months ago

@crrdlx tried to send sats from his custodial Lightning Wallet to @savvytester's (also) custodial V4V wallet which is savvytester@sats.v4v.app, but failed. 🤯 His attempt to send sats and his long comment there is appreciated. 🤗

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tydynrain 8 months ago

Hrmmm...well that's not very encouraging. It's good to know, though. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 8 months ago (edited)

@crrdlx explained on his long comment that "zaps" work only between Lightning Wallets that are linked to #Nostr "accounts". 🤯

At least, he tried to "zap" a "Hive Lightning" wallet (V4V) for @savvytester even if it is unlikely to be successful. 🤗

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

I think that the reason why your "zap" from #Nostr to @savvytester's V4V wallet failed is because the minimum invoice for the V4V Lightning payments is 250 sats according to an official post . 🤯 While paying an invoice is different from directly sending sats, we could assume that the V4V lightning node has also set the minimum of incoming sats as 250 too. 🤓 Perhaps @tydynrain is also interested in this fact! 😎 !HOPE !INDEED !WEIRD !PIZZA !ALIVE

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tydynrain 7 months ago

That is good to know indeed. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

@savvytester would soon test "zapping" #Nostr wallets directly from V4V, first starting at the minimum possible amount (1 sat), then a substantial amount but less than the minimum invoice amount (100 sats), then the minimum invoice amount (250 sats), and finally something higher (1,000 sats, to someone on Nostr that is also active here on Hive). 💸😎

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tydynrain 7 months ago

Oh cool, well I hope that the tests go well, and I look forward to hearing about the results. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

@savvytester told me that they were finally able to send sats to a Lightning Wallet (which is normally used to receive zaps on #Nostr) !INDEED using V4V. 🤓 The better part is that they were able to do so without paying any fee! 😎 However, they haven't tested yet how much the fees would be if they send sats back to the V4V wallet though. 🤯😅

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tydynrain 7 months ago

Oh excellent, that's very good to hear. Yeah, I'd really love to know how it works going in the other direction. I'm hoping that the fees wouldn't be too much. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

It looks like you are really interested in seeing how your #Nostr earnings would help you grow your Hive account faster. 😅 That's okay since whatever zaps you get on Nostr in general are voluntarily given to you, but it would be a good habit on Nostr to zap back to others about half of whatever got zapped to you. 🧘‍♂️🤗

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

It looks like I was able to encourage you a bit further into trying out #Nostr apps again! 😆😎

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tydynrain 7 months ago

Yes, that's true, you did, and I will look more closely into it when I get a more-free moment. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

There is another person on Hive named @mypathtofire (which @savvytester used to talk with a lot here on Hive) who is also active on #Nostr! 😎

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tydynrain 7 months ago

Oh, Steve, yes, I know him, though I haven't spoken with him in a while. That's good to know. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

It has been a whopping 9 months since his last post here on Hive. 🤯

Anyway, I noticed that he certainly saw my previous comment, as he voted it. 😏

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

Let's !HOPE that your "more-free moment" arrives sooner, and that your "great memory" doesn't become full of to-do tasks! 🤗😅

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tydynrain 7 months ago

Me too, and it already is. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

You can still "make" way for new items for your "great memory" by either removing old items or making your memory even greater, where I !HOPE the latter !INDEED. 🤯🤗

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mypathtofire 7 months ago

I have never got V4V wallet to work for Zaps, I do not think it is correctly setup with Nostr Wallet Connect that you usually put into your favorite Nostr App.

I can recommend: https://rizful.com/

They run some large channels and setup with Nostr Wallect Connect is fast and easy.

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savvyplayer 7 months ago (edited)

Thanks for your reply, especially for your recommendation for an NWC app! 🤗 I wonder what @crrdlx can tell about that particular Lightning Wallet provider. 😏

Anyway, I think that @savvytester told me roughly a year ago something about you and Hive tipping tokens, but I can't remember exactly what. 🤯 Perhaps it was about you preferring not to tip and/or be tipped tokens? 😅

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crrdlx 7 months ago

I'm pretty sure v4v.app does not use nwc at all. I think insaw that bruanof London is doing a total rewrite if the code also by the way. Maybe receiving sats will be easier then.

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

I was referring to the #Rizful NWC app for #Nostr, not the #V4V Hive app. 🤯

Anyway, it looks like your autocorrect app outputted insaw that bruanof London is doing a total rewrite if the code also, making it appear drunk !INDEED. 😆😅 !LOLZ

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crrdlx 7 months ago

That's pretty funny. Probably a mix of autocorrect and me fat fingering.

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savvyplayer 7 months ago

I should have clearly pertained to the #Rizful NWC app though on my previous comment, so that you didn't get confused about which Lightning Wallet app I was talking about !INDEED. 🤯😅 !WEIRD !HOPE !PIZZA

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tydynrain 8 months ago

Hrmmm...OK. If I don't know that it works, I'm not going to ask anyone to waste, and I don't want to waste, sats just to test it. I appreciate the links, those will be very useful. I've got a bit of reading to do it would seem. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvytester 8 months ago (edited)

I don't think that sats (except the transaction fee which is usually just 1 satoshi) will get "wasted", because if such sats don't get succesfully sent to a target wallet, then it should remain at (or go back quickly to) the sender's wallet. 🤔🤯🤓😅

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tydynrain 8 months ago

OK, that's good to know. I'm just used to horror stories of people losing large amounts of crypto assets by sending them to an incorrect address. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvytester 8 months ago (edited)

Bitcoin Lightning Wallet addresses are only supposed to hold small amounts of sats, as they are designed for paying (and swapping/converting) and not for investing/trading (and "HODLing"). 🤔🧘‍♂️🤓😏

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tydynrain 8 months ago

Well, yes, and I would usually use them to send sats to Hive. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvytester 8 months ago

I found a post which clearly explains the many #Nostr features are through "Nostr Implementation Possibilities" or "NIPs". 🤔🤓 "NIP-57" is probably the "coolest" part, which is the "Zaps" from the "Bitcoin Lightning Integration". 😎😏

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tydynrain 8 months ago

Well, that does sound interesting. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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savvytester 8 months ago

Looks like I was able to make you (slightly) more interested to use #Nostr apps again because of my previous comment! 🤔😎😏

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