RE: How to Make Hive.vote Your Passive Income Sidekick (Without Selling Your Soul or Your Private Keys)

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holoz0r in LeoFinance • 14 days ago

I would much rather prefer that people read content.

Then vote for it if they like it. An autovote reduces your agency, and devalues the work that authors put into things. If HIVE is simply an investment vehicle for getting "rewards", then people are very much missing the point.

It is a place for people to express themselves. It is a place for people to engage with one another.

It is a place where real relationships can flourish, and content that would never see the light of day on other platforms can be published by people who create because they have a burning desire to do so.

Automatic voting destroys the social structure of HIVE, and actively turns it into a "hands off" platform, when it can only succeed when people are having meaningful conversations and connections.

Otherwise, what is the point of visiting a dead wasteland dominated by automatic votes?

14 days ago in LeoFinance by holoz0r

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borniet 10 days ago

I totally agree with your vision on Hive. And I also agree that this tool CAN be misused in a way that goes totally against these principles. However, that is the fault of the people abusing it, not of the tool. The tool allows for finetuning in such a way that is not abuse at all, and helps you support your social network on Hive at those times your timeschedule, or different timezones make it difficult to do so.
As for reading content, I 100% wholeheartedly agree! I put effort in my photography, in checking out things like for this post, in writing the content, in everything, and getting no reads and 100 upvotes doesn't give me the same fullfillment that 100 reads on 1 upvote would (well, that might be a pretty bad example, as that would mean very low appreciation of my content ;-) But you get my drift, right? Right?? ;-) ).
However, since recently you can see the nr of views a post had in a specific frontend. More often than not, you see posts with like 25 views on Ecency, 25 on Peakd, and let's say 50 more on all other frontends combined (which I think is a real overestimation), yet they have +1000 upvotes.
Same goes for comments, periodically, 50% of the comments I receive are just copy/pastes of the same thing ("great post", "thanks for sharing") or are completely unrelated to the post itself, where it is obvious that only the first 2 or 3 sentences were read, and a comment was formulated.
In those cases, I prefer an auto-upvote. The end-result is the same, but it costs me less time to weed through the spam (I think we can call some of those comments spam).
I see the problem, absolutely!
I see it needs a solution! Absolutely!
I see that this tool CAN be used to create more of this problem, but the tool is not the problem :-)
And yup, I've spend many of nights already thinking over possible solutions to the Hive problems we have...
BTW, while we're at the subject (well... kinda ;-) ), if you would consider voting for my Hive Witness (and Engine Witness...) @botlord, that would be appreciated! ;-)
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holoz0r 10 days ago

On the "poor quality comments" part - I actually did some analysis on this not too long ago. Around 60% of comments on the week I sampled were not unique - they were, as you suggested "great post", "thanks" , "you're welcome" or variations of that, or people just calling various bots for hive engine tokens (which were the majority of comments on chain).

I have recently gotten involved with topcomment, and they are doing a great job at incentivising high quality comments.

I too, put a lot of effort into my posts, be it my photography, analysis, writing, or the insane ramblings that I sometimes like to write by going completely off topic :D

And yes, an autovoter is just a tool, but I really, really want hive to be a place where people do make connections, do have discussions, and grow together.

I feel as though you don't get that with an autovoter, as I said in my prior comment.

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borniet 9 days ago

Totally agree that that would be the main goal for sure! And incentives like @topcomment and @commentrewarder are incredibly valuable from what I can see (I should really start using them actually… ).
60% sounds about right according to what I see in my own received comments. And I am sometimes guilty of writing low quality comments as well, as I try to reply to each comment I get, and a “great post” comment doesn’t invite a lot of other replies then “Thank you” of course :-)
Maybe not replying to those comments is a better way to de-incentivize those types of comments.
Well, like someone else said somewhere in a post a while ago, Hive resembles life, and it does so in many ways…

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topcomment 9 days ago

Thanks for mentioning @topcomment

You can also use Hive.vote to follow our Curation Trail 😉

https://hive.vote/dash.php?trail=topcomment&i=1

That way you can support us with your 'excessive' Hive Power.

Don't forget the checkbox 'also upvote comments' in the settings though.

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topcomment 9 days ago

And @commentrewarder is following our trail as well!

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borniet 9 days ago

lol!!! I just LOVE this comment!!! :-D
I’ll check it out, and will follow the trail!
Thanks for mentioning it ;-)

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topcomment 9 days ago

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