Ideas For Raising Awareness of Hive

Yesterday, I wrote A Post, about using the DHF to invest in Startups and Businesses of Hive users, as a way of bringing money into our economy.

I stand by the idea and believe that under the right circumstances, it is exactly what we should be doing. Mainly as a way to use the money generated to offset the selling pressure generated through the maintenance and expansion of our Dapps.

But I have other ideas. Cheaper ideas. Less risky ideas.


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Writers of Hive

This is an idea I had about 3 or 4 years ago, and I think it could work, and I truly believe in it.

I thought it would be good to gather up multiple fiction writers on Hive, who write stand-alone short stories that can be compiled and published as an Anthology collection.

Each author would maintain total control over their story; so this would not be multiple people sitting down to write together and work on a large story, it would be many individuals combining their work and sharing the burden and the cost of publishing something like this.

It would go up on Amazon, and we would publish it ourselves. In the introduction, we would advertise Hive and give a call to action for anyone who reads it to join, follow the authors involved, or, better yet, get writing and submit their own work to the next collection.

Another added benefit is that advertising Hive this way, we are almost guaranteed to bring in more readers.


What We Would Need

We would need ISBNs, an editor, and a cover art designer. I don't know what other associated costs are involved when it comes to self-publishing, but that is something the team can all work toward finding out.

The point I'm making, though, is that it wouldn't be cheap, but since it is benefiting Hive, I am sure there are people here who would not mind donating towards it (I would gladly put some money in the pot)

The Second thing we would need is writers.

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(I know you guys are still active, and I have read your work/ written with you in the past)

Granted, when I initially had this idea back then, Scholar and Scribe was teeming with life, but these days the community is kind of a ghost town. But, there are still plenty of active writers here, and many who I'm sure would make a comeback.

@grocko I believe is inactive these days, but the guy is an avid lover of fiction, a good writer, and even if he didn't want to submit work to the collection, maybe he could work as an editor. (I haven't forgotten the money I owe you for that last story you edited for me)


This Is A Good Idea

I want to/ am going to release my own collection of short stories, but I'm not quite ready yet. However, I would have a few I could submit to a collection like this.

That's kind of the point of something like this too, it allows us to work together, share the pressure of releasing something, and it allows us to gain some recognition for our work outside of Hive.

Will it be a best seller? Probably not.

Will it generate a lot of money? Probably not.

Will we have fun doing it? Yes.

Will it bring people to Hive? Maybe.

Will we be able to hold a physical copy of the book when it releases? Hell yes.

I remember one major point made in the past when I first threw this idea out there, was, what happens with the money? How do we split the money?

Back then, I came up with a convoluted answer, but I was idealistic and full of whimsy then; now my answer would be, lol, what money? Nobody makes money from art anymore, so don't worry about that.

We will figure that out just before hitting publish, but I'd gladly forgo my share of the spoils if it meant we could work on something like this and gain some eyeballs on our work, and bring some more lost souls to Hive.

I think what would work on a group project like this is having a well-known, well-established, trusted treasurer who can handle the donations. And, who can distribute the money from sales (if any), but that is a bridge we can cross down the line.

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We would need ISBNs, an editor, and a cover art designer. I don't know what other associated costs are involved when it comes to self-publishing, but that is something the team can all work toward finding out.

ISBN's are a Nice To Have but not a Need To Have when publishing through KDP. Amazon will assign you one that they own if you don't have your own. You won't be able to sell the book on other marketplaces with it - and things like Libraries won't shelf your book - but when ISBNs can range from Free With Hurdles (like in Canada) to around $100, it's an easy way to cut out some of that process by just using the assigned Amazon-ISBN.

There are a number of great and fairly cheap folks available for cover art comission on places like Fiverr. I think mine cost me $50 CAD or around that. You could look at the KDP templates and make your own cover too - but folks buying fiction on Amazon are very unlikely to snag a book with an AI art cover so if you go that route, use any of the amazing Fantasy/SciFi stock artists out there - it's usually a VERY cost-effective way to get great images for whatever you might need.

I've been noodling around with a concept for a second book of Prompts or maybe a slightly more focused workbook-style guided worldbuilding book that utilizes some of my new 500 prompts... and I've also been considering following @enjar's path of making a Choose Your Own Adventure style book and putting that out there. I think there's a small but decent community that still enjoys that style of fiction.

Nothing concrete yet, but of course, anything I put out will have a link back to HIVE as most of my ideas are first tested and drafted here!

You're the only person I know who has published something, so I think your advice would be invaluable toward a project like this.

A second prompt book would be cool, I love the idea of choose your own adventure books though, I was thinking of doing one myself but havent nailed the idea down yet. I'm going to follow them and check them out.

100%, we'd definitely want to steer clear of AI because it just isn't a good look for a book.

The ISBNs I think woule be necessary as the intention would be to be self suffient and hopefully try to get the book into shelves, and getting a few copies into Libraries would also be good. I think having them from the get go would be a good way of starting strong, rather than having to go back and cross the bridge down the line.

I am a huge believer in libraries. When society is derping the way it currently is, there's nothing more punk than supporting a library.

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Sandy you need a decent following of people who will all buy a book the moment it comes out. Self publishing on Amazon is flooded these days with books.

The only good news is publishers can no longer just buy 10k copies of their own author’s work to get it into trending lists. Like they have been for years to get authors further sales by being in trending.

I love this idea ! I've been thinking for a while of pulling together three or four different anthologies by genre based on Hive posts I've done in the past.

For the ISBN, they aren't crazy expensive, and I'd favour owning on ourselves rather than getting trapped into Amazon's ecosystem. That way, we could offer a variety of formats; KDP, other e-book, print on demand, or even print a few on spec in order to do in-person sales & signings.

For the financial model, if we had (say) five Hivers each contributing two stories of roughly equal length, I'd be happy to pay a fifth of the ISBN and cover art cost, although I don't think I could stretch to covering the cost of editing right now.

But if a fellow Hiver was doing the editing, how about the five authors cover the other up-front costs and we work out what the editor should fairly earn. Then, revenue is split 6 ways until the editor has been paid after which it reverts to the revenue being split 5 ways. Or just a 6-way split all through (possibly fairer on the editor, who is taking a gamble that it makes enough to ever pay their wages !).

We might need to also say that the revenue split is after channel fees (Amazon especially takes a huge whack), and maybe say that a fixed percentage is taken off the top for pre-agreed marketing costs.

Marketing might be a combination of on-Hive, plus whoever of us has the biggest YouTube, TikTok & Instagram channels, in-person signings at bookshops & bookfairs, possibly Facebook ads, and maybe even getting to Hive meetups and bringing a few copies to sign & sell.....

Yeah, we could use our platforms to make videos and talk about it. We could even record production meetings and could also do a short video on self-publishing and the trials and tribulations we go through to do it, as a short YouTube documentary.

Across Hive, I'd say we could gain a bit of a following for doing it and rally some support for what we're doing.

5 writers with 2 stories each would be really managable, and as for the editor, if they were up for taking an even share that would be great. It would be ideal to keep it all inhouse here on Hive, which I'm sure there are artists and potential editors here.

Because this idea is beneficial for Hive, I'm sure across the whole community we could have a wit round €2-€5 each to help pay for this. If not though, between the 5 writers we could cover it.

I think I read before that 10 ISBNs are between €250 - €500, we would need one for paperback, hardback, and ebook, which would mean we would have 7 to use on the next book(s)

I love the idea of doing signings, especially at Hive events. If we picked up momentum, we could potentially get this book on shelves in a real shop, rather than relying on Amazon, which would be amazing.

There is a local bookshop in my town, and I know the people, so I'm sure if I approached them they would take a few copies.

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This is an interesting initiative that could highlights great writing beyond the Hive network. I do wish we had our own Hive Amazon for publishing. The PeakD store shows promise but transactions are handled directly between seller and buyer. It would be neat to have a store that handles the distribution aspect of publishing like the Amazon Kindle store.

That's pretty cool, I wasn't aware that Peakd had something like that.

Having an inhouse publishing company would be kickass, and you know what, there's nothing to say that couldn't happen here down the line.

We could become a chain known for its fiction writers, and then put a large emphasis into being a self suffient eco-system for authors.

I think a Kindle-style store would be great because then we develop the ecosystem inhouse, giving publishing control to the author. I mean, we already have this with Hive, but I think that a store could be a good way to present even more refined work.

The PeakD store is found under the "Explore" tab: https://peakd.com/shop

we would advertise Hive and give a call to action for anyone who reads it to join, follow the authors involved, or, better yet, get writing and submit their own work to the next collection.

You got to be very careful about that. As it can be seen as breaking KDP policy and can get a book pulled and you banned. While they generally allow someone including a link out to their own website. It’s not the same when you are sending people to a blockchain instead of the author’s personal website.

Really? That would have been one of the major reasons to do something like this. I'm going to look into it and see if there is some way of promoting Hive, even without outright promoting it.

Maybe saying something like, 'the authors of this book met on Hive, where each of them share their work.' Or something along those line, just to give readers of a place to go looking.

Or, maybe a way around it would be for each author to have a site, which links back Hive.

At least with each of those, there is a chance for people to make their way here

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We would need ISBNs, an editor, and a cover art designer. I don't know what other associated costs are involved when it comes to self-publishing, but that is something the team can all work toward finding out.

If you actually just sell e-book it isn't that hard. All you need is those ISBNs, an editor, a cover art designer ( these are the least cost of them all). Marketing takes up majority of the costs.

I am currently running a physical library and is working on an e-catalogue. With the Service I am using, to have an e-book listed too, It'll cost $500/year ish to have the online catalogue up and running and these are the fees for the custom domain as well as the options like check-out, and e-book to purchase ( the only problem is that this site will re-direct to sites like amazon etc)

So far with the free version this is how it looks https://tbmsrikandi.librarika.com/

But if you have bigger funding, here's the free idea. You can have built in OPAC, create a kindle like system payment, maybe let's say 6 hive for x amount access to e-books and the printed version would cost different and when you review, you get the chance to get rewarded. It creates a circular economy that benefits both ways.

Maybe you can also vibe code something similar to that and that'll cost starting from US$10,000 with 1 or 2 engineers, minimal UI, mostly open source library and no advanced DRM nor mobile apps.

With Hive writers only, we have removed a lot of barriers on publisher contracts and legal side of it. However, we must also retain their DRM which can be done either through watermark or this is where Hive can enter as the blockchain that tracks traceability.

When someone buys an e-book, the platform generates a personalized EPUB or PDF containing subtle identifiers like hidden watermark tied to that specific user. At the same time, the backend calculates a cryptographic hash of the original file and stores that hash together with ownership metadata on hive blockchain (this should be doable)😂

But we have to ensure that the user experience is simply they sign in / browse around, buy books, and read them without dealing with wallets, random fees, or visible crypto mechanics.