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in Finance and Economy10 days ago

I would be a good rich person.

Does anyone want to make me rich to prove it?

I figure, everyone overestimates or underestimates their behaviour when it comes to things they haven't experienced directly. The majority of people think they are in the top half of driving ability, and most managers think they are better than the majority of other managers. Similarly, most people who win the lottery, think they will be "smart" with the money - but the reality of averages tell a different story.

And, most people think they would be good rich people.

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History predicts we are usually wrong.

I have never been rich. I have never felt rich. Most of my life, I have lived in some level of debt, or if not, scraping through. But of course, "rich" is a relative term that is often skewed by the constant stream of material about those who are not just rich, they are obscenely wealthy. I know quite a few rich people - but none of the obscenely wealthy. The rich people I know are nearly all self-made rich, and pretty down to earth people - still working hard, still caring about what they do, where they spend, and what the future holds. You will rarely see them in the news and if they are, it is for the work they are doing, their wealth isn't mentioned.

Yesterday, I paid off my credit card debt. There wasn't much and it was on a card I had already cut up, but figured it was better to get it out of the way now, while I still have some money in the bank. Of course, I am not debt free totally, because I still have a mortgage, but at least the debt model is a little more simplified. I haven't used a credit card for a while, other than for online payments which I have been paying off each month. But this particular one had been hanging over my head and I am glad to see the back of it. We tend to learn a lot from our parents. At least I am not paying one credit card off with another - so I guess I have evolved a little since them.

My mother was terrible with money.

I hope I am able to set a better example for my daughter, but it is easier to set a good example when conditions are a little more positive than they currently are. At least financially. When there is enough, it is pretty easy to be able to allocate for different functions, spending, saving, investing. When there is too little, it all becomes about not spending. There are lessons in that too - but it is only part of the equation.

You can't save your way into financial comfort.

My parents didn't teach any of the correct equation at all. There was no investing, there was no saving, but there was spending and spending on debt. It is okay to spend when there is enough income, but when there isn't, it can quickly spiral out of control, with the debt compounding and the hole getting deeper and deeper. I have always hoped that my daughter would see something other than what I did as a financial role model.

There is still hope.

I would like to be "rich", which for me means having enough to cover everything I need, without having to rely on a salary of any kind. The richness would come from being able to truly pick and choose what I want to do, not just for work, but for my family. It doesn't mean I would be able to do anything and everything, but just make choices for everyday living for our own wellbeing. The food we eat, the activities we do, the home improvements we make.

Things for a better life.

That is what we are doing with the garden now. It is a family activity and while there are costs involved, we are trying to do it in a way that keeps the costs down with the material and item choices we make, as well as through the "sweat equity" of doing the work ourselves. So far, there has been a lot of sweat invested, even though the weather has been cold. But still, I would love to be able to speed the process up a bit, and make some choices for some things a little differently. For instance, it would be nice to be able to think about what furniture we want, and then just go and get it - without having to bargain hunt. But since we have to, I try to make it fun too.

It is possible to have fun without being rich.

But I think that it would make it easier if rich. Or at least, the fun would be from a different level of activity, rather than trying to make the most of what is available while making ends meet.

But what do I currently know?

Maybe one day I will find out for myself.

Taraz
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I always find it amazing that those who say money does not matter are the ones with it. I think money brings comfort. It brings stress but if you have ever had to worry about where rent or a meal comes from the stress of a job melts away.

but if you have ever had to worry about where rent or a meal comes from the stress of a job melts away.

I always find it a bit interesting when people talk about stress from the job. I don't know the rest of their lives of course, but job stress is the fun stuff.

I have this idea that most of the people who want to be "rich" actually just want that same thing (not have to worry about money/be able to just buy what they want or go on holiday or take their kids on whatever experiences without having to figure out what they're going to go without to be able to make that happen if it's even a possibility at all).

Which may be why most people think they would be "good" rich people as they probably would be.

there are probably good obscenely wealthy people too but apparently we never want to hear about anything good

I think you are right. "Rich" isn't a practical label, it is meaningless. It is the practical things - what "richness" buys that matters and most people probably don't want that much.

I am curious about your definition of rich vs obscenely rich. What would you say defines each of the thresholds? Income and asset wise? Let's put these in USD values for simplicity purposes.

I am not sure it is a I don't think it is a USD value thing - but should there really be as many billionaires as there are? Maybe it also has something to do with how they make their money.

I always thought that being rich and wealthy is a different thing. Rich means you have lots of money. Wealthy means that you have lots of free time.

I would like to be wealthy.
Thoughts on that?

I get what you mean by this, but I think it is just a definition difference, not a practical one. Maybe regardless, it depends on a personal value, not a social value.

A rich culture, or a wealthy culture?

As I said, one of my definitions. Doesn't matter how you name it, what I wanted to underline is that money alone are not 100% of the equation. That is the reason why many of the lottery winners do not keep the winning for too long. Is the mindset that makes you rich.

If I became rich some day, I would continue working and doing what I do today for a while as a sudden change in lifestyle might have negative effects on the rest of my life.

doing what I do today for a while as a sudden change in lifestyle might have negative effects on the rest of my life.

I think I would be the same. It is like living in a new house for a while, before making any renovation changes.

I also got rid of credit cards a long time ago. It's an unpleasant feeling to constantly be in debt to the bank. And it allows you not to spend extra money.

It kind of annoys me that it is necessary for online payments.

we as humans wants to be in a position where we can cater for ourselves and family without bothering anyone and this doesn't mean been rich though but been comfortable without financial stress.

Luxury is overrated - enough comfort is valuable.

My parents didn't really teach me about being responsible with money, but they set an example. I remember being around each Friday night and watching them go through the budget after my dad got home from work and before we would go out to get groceries. I'd like to think I would be a good rich person as well. I'd love to run a foundation one day that offers charity, but I doubt that will ever happen!

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I would be a good rich person.
Does anyone want to make me rich to prove it?

I am sending you my energy $0.05 to see if you are right. Now you are richer than you was before. So I guess you are a good rich person now.

You can't save your way into financial comfort.

I believe this as well. That is part of the reason why I like Hive so much. Here saving combines with investing in a perfect natural combination.

I would like to be "rich", which for me means having enough to cover everything I need, without having to rely on a salary of any kind. The richness would come from being able to truly pick and choose what I want to do, not just for work, but for my family. It doesn't mean I would be able to do anything and everything, but just make choices for everyday living for our own wellbeing. The food we eat, the activities we do, the home improvements we make.

Dear @tarazkp !
I agree with you!
By the way, Is the reason you left Australia and lived in Europe because there are more opportunities to become rich there?

East Asians who have been to Australia say that Australia is rich in food and resources, but has no opportunities to become rich.

I hope you would like to understand to my akward english!😄

I do consider myself rich at the moment. I'm making more than I need, have a few back-ups running well, and can afford my hobbies. Yesterday I wrote a post about that, it's scheduled for tomorrow.
My mom was the saving one. Not investing, only saving, she later got into a few funds. I'm the one who's looking for investments all the time, and it's working out great. I'll probably keep being rich until the financial system collapses. I don't have any land to work afterwards, so I might become poor in that case. Maybe my next investment should be a plot of real-life-land, not Splinter-land.