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RE: Ecency waves Jul 15

in Town Square7 days ago (edited)

While I can Power Up more ALIVE to reach a higher ALIVE tipping tier (and have more relaxed limits) by selling my other #HiveEngine tokens, I would have a hard time explaining to other ALIVE token tippers that restrictions are in place "to reduce tipping spamming/farming". 🙁🤯

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I certainly understand that. It was originally put in place because some notable 'spam fighters' contacted us to ask us to counter the spam use of our bots. This mostly happened with the MMB bots, but Bjorn implemented the same thing for ALIVE too, just to be on the safe side, since there's enough downvoting occurring. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

!BBH

It's nice to be informed that some people spam and farm Hive token tipping bots such that their respective owners would put protective measures in place, but it's no longer nice when people flag token tipping bots' respective Hive accounts. 🧘‍♂️🤯

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I agree indeed, and on both counts. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I noticed that @savvytester told you 4 hours ago that someone apparently got annoyed by getting tagged by a Hive token tipping bot (whether or not the bot is working properly) !INDEED. 🤯

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Yep, the LOLZ bot did not have a good day at all. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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And yet, the LOLZ token tipping bot continues doing the same thing which gives it "bad days", and that's mentioning LOLZ tippers even when nothing actually got tipped. 🤯

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That's a very sad and sorry state of affairs indeed. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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!PIZZA

It might be several months before the owner of the LOLZ project takes action, or the server(s) where the LOLZ bots are hosted automatically shuts down !INDEED. 🧘‍♂️🤯

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I agree, but action simply had to be taken against some of these spammers/harvesters. At some point there were thousands and tenthousands of tips per hour going through a whole carefully set up network only meant (and the only activity on the accounts) for tip-harvesting. It created a lot of spam on the blockchain, and a drain of resources.
A tried my best at that time to make sure that we could stop it, which we did. And since your question now is the first remark that came in after it being in production for over a year, I think it wasn't done that bad ;-)

!ALIVE !MMB !HOPE !BBH


Posted with Reply&Tip ⚡ — vote @botlord for witness 🗳️

Perhaps you may want to use what other people on Hive do to make their bots resistant to spammers, such as @kenny-crane implementing a restriction on his #tokenfaucet giveaway bot where only Hive accounts that have more than 50 Reputation and are not blacklisted elsewhere on Hive can participate !INDEED. 🤔

!HOPE
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!MMB

Thanks for the tip! Looking into the possibilities of implementing something similar, to aid or replace the current system.

!ALIVE !HOPE !BBH !PIZZA


Posted with Reply&Tip ⚡ — vote @botlord for witness 🗳️

Here are some of the options you can use to minimize "spam & farm" tippers !INDEED for your token tipping bots (particularly the !ALIVE token tipping bot in this case). 🤓

  1. require a minimum Hive Reputation (35 Rep as you said on your other comment)
  2. require not being in certain blacklists (of your choice)
  3. admins and mods (of the #WeAreAlive tribe)using a report command
  4. big (ALIVE) holders (let's say 20,000 ALIVE or more staked) using a report command
  5. manual review from any Hive person who reports "spam & farm" activity

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All this, and some more general anti-spam measures that you should never encounter (>100 tips of the same bot on a single post and such) are now implemented.

!ALIVE !INDEED !ZOMBIE


Posted with Reply&Tip ⚡ — vote @botlord for witness 🗳️

I !HOPE that you clarify what >100 tips of the same bot on a single post means. 🤔 Does that mean that any of your !MMB-based token tipping bots will not tip more than 100 times under a single post? 🤯 If yes, I wonder what period of time that would be. 😅

Anyway, I think that you should avoid discussing the more specific details of your anti-spam measures to avoid giving "spammers and farmers" ideas !INDEED! 🤓

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!PIXY

!INDEED I invite you to the discord channels or dm to discuss further ;-)

!ALIVE !MMB


Posted with Reply&Tip ⚡ — vote @botlord for witness 🗳️

@tydynrain knows that I really avoid using third-party communications platforms just to talk about anything on Hive !INDEED. 😅 I !HOPE that you understand! 🤗

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Implemented as we speak ;-) And as such, lowering the other guards a bit!
Do keep the gate of reputation of 35 instead of 50, to allow for newer accounts to join the tipping fun as well.

!ALIVE !MMB


Posted with Reply&Tip ⚡ — vote @botlord for witness 🗳️

50 Reputation as a requirement is somewhat high, so I and @savvytester helped some people on Hive boost their respective Hive accounts' Reputation to 50 !INDEED by curating all their comments. 😅 Reaching 50 Reputation without publishing any post is really hard, just like what @savvytester experienced before when their comments still didn't get enough curation. 🤯🤓

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