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RE: Ecency waves Jul 15

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That would also mean that someone who has 1,000 Alive Power and delegated out all of them will not be able to tip any !ALIVE token. 🖖💸🐸

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Yes, that's also correct. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I thought that I already tipped !ALIVE 10 times yesterday (UTC), but the ALIVE token tipping bot's most recent daily report said that I successfully tipped only 3 times. 💸🤯 I wonder if there are any restrictions placed on ALIVE token tipping I am not yet aware of, or if there is some technical issue with the ALIVE bot !INDEED. 🤯🤓

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Hey @savvyplayer — I checked the logs, and the report is actually correct: 3 tips is what really went out. Here's what happened. Yesterday you tipped @tydynrain about 8 times in a row. The bot has an anti-spam rule: you can only tip the same person once every 10 minutes (and only a few times per day to the same person). So 3 of your tips to tydynrain went through, and the other ~5 were blocked by that cooldown — they never became actual ALIVE transfers, which is why the daily report (which counts tips actually sent) shows 3.

It's not the report being wrong — it's the spam-protection doing its job. If you tip different people, every one counts (up to your daily limit of 10+).

I am considering to lower this down from the 10minutes, as I know that if you do your replies in batch, like I often do myself, you easily hit these walls…

@tydynrain @savvyplayer
Small update, working on implementing a trust based anti spam limit. The more of the tokens you own, the more trust = the lower the walls

Thanks a lot for your quick response, and the info, brother! I like that idea! 😁🙏💚✨🤙

Though you'd like it ;-) And it makes things better for the loyal users, while still keeping us safe from spammers and harvesters! ;-)

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While I can Power Up more ALIVE to reach a higher ALIVE tipping tier (and have more relaxed limits) by selling my other #HiveEngine tokens, I would have a hard time explaining to other ALIVE token tippers that restrictions are in place "to reduce tipping spamming/farming". 🙁🤯

I certainly understand that. It was originally put in place because some notable 'spam fighters' contacted us to ask us to counter the spam use of our bots. This mostly happened with the MMB bots, but Bjorn implemented the same thing for ALIVE too, just to be on the safe side, since there's enough downvoting occurring. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I agree, but action simply had to be taken against some of these spammers/harvesters. At some point there were thousands and tenthousands of tips per hour going through a whole carefully set up network only meant (and the only activity on the accounts) for tip-harvesting. It created a lot of spam on the blockchain, and a drain of resources.
A tried my best at that time to make sure that we could stop it, which we did. And since your question now is the first remark that came in after it being in production for over a year, I think it wasn't done that bad ;-)

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Indeed, it's a very good balance, a trust scaling! 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Because of that update, I would have a much more difficult time to tip all 10 !ALIVE tokens (especially without any token tipping attempt failing). 💸🤯 It would be completely okay though if there is a fixed limit for tipping a given Hive account per day (let's say 5 or even 3 which your and @borniet's MMB-based tipping tokens already have), because I can publish 3 to 5 comments and not just 1 comment within a given 600-second period. 🤯🤓

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I understand. I wasn't keeping close track of the tipping limits, since I rarely seemed to have issues. The spammers and the farmers are the ones that we we asked to restrict. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Aaaaaand.... done! :-D
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!ALIVE -> still test ;-)

Awesome sauce, and will do! 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Thanks in advance ;-)

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I know that you want to minimize the effect of unwanted tipping of your (and @tydynrain's) Hive tipping tokens (the ALIVE token in this case), though I really think that it harms more legitimate tippers, since "spammers and farmers" will just find other ways to take unfair advantage of such tipping tokens !INDEED. 🙁🤯

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I've updated a large part of the anti-spamming measures, so it should not hurt real users anymore. Let's see how this plays out now, and adjust more if needed.

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I'm completely okay with the same Hive account receiving only a limited number of tips per token per day (UTC) which your and @tydynrain's !IDD, !HOP, !WRD, !MMB, and other tokens already have, but not a (600-second cooldown) timer for tipping any token (the !ALIVE token in this case) any given Hive account because it's very hard to keep track of. 🤯🙁💸

!INDEED ! So I've changed that now ;-)

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I didn't know about such "anti-spam" rule for the !ALIVE token tipping bot where the same Hive account can't be tipped within a given 600-second period of time, and that there is a limit on how many times the same Hive account can be tipped per day (UTC). 🤯 If there was an official post about that restriction, I really didn't see it. 🤯🤯

I used to be able to tip all 10 ALIVE tips at least a year ago !INDEED. 🖖🤓

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Hrmmm...odd. There aren't any particular restrictions of which I'm aware, so it might have been bot hiccups. We should ask @borniet about it. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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It looks like such restrictions for ALIVE token tipping which you weren't aware of made more or less half of your !ALIVE token tipping attempts fail. 🖖💸🤯

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Yep, I wasn't paying attention to the anti-spam restrictions on our own tokens. Oh well. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Looking into it!

Thanks much again, my friend, and I saw your replies! 😁🙏💚✨🤙