Why I’ve Lost Any Hope Hive Has a Bright Future I’m Saying This Because I Care, Not Because I’m Bitter! I Love Many Here! But This Must Be Said! & Full Time Daily Participation Is No Longer Worth It!

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Why I’ve Lost Any Hope Hive Has a Bright Future I’m Saying This Because I Care, Not Because I’m Bitter! I Love Many Here! But This Must Be Said! & Full Time Daily Participation Is No Longer Worth It!

Edit - Just making clear, I love this platform & many here! I just feel this needs to be said! But I’m not singling out any person or account! Just gotta be honest what I’m seeing that’s concerning!

Oh and yes, Hive is definitely going way lower and likely sub penny! Unless major changes are made!

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Hive is drifting into the same trap that killed Steemit, and too many people are pretending not to see it. Large whales keep voting the same accounts and DHF proposals with zero transparency, while a growing percentage of smaller accounts survive almost entirely on delegation-based bot votes. Roughly 75 percent of visible rewards are effectively bought, either through paid subscriptions or locked-up Hive delegations.

This has created a culture where posting isn’t about ideas or interaction. It’s about obligation. Max out a 2,500 Hive delegation, post daily, collect your vote. That’s the deal. You can post two sentences and get paid. Engagement is optional. Meaning is irrelevant. We’ve already seen how this ends.

Steemit proved this model doesn’t work. People powered up large amounts, delegated for votes, and chased daily rewards while real activity died. Prices collapsed harder than any rewards ever made up for. The only thing that grew was the illusion of value under each post. Hive is not there yet, but the rhyme is getting louder.

What makes this worse is the refusal to admit reality. Activity is bleeding. The DHF is full of waste and circular funding. Yet the community narrative insists Hive is growing and thriving. It isn’t. Pretending otherwise only accelerates the decline.

Then there’s the fantasy surrounding HBD. Claims that it will become a dominant stablecoin or be adopted by Bitcoin infrastructure are not optimism, they’re delusion. Algorithmic pegs already failed. The market chose centralized, asset-backed stablecoins. That decision is over.

Hive doesn’t need cheerleading. It needs honesty. It needs whales and devs willing to admit the current model isn’t working and that growth isn’t happening. Without that, there is no course correction.

I care about a lot of people here. That’s exactly why I’m done pretending. Hive needs a reckoning, not another layer of bots, narratives, or forced optimism.

Thanks for reading!

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For full transparency, I usual do vlogs because I hate writing, so I asked AI to correct spelling and punctuation and tighten up my typed blog. I’m posting my original un touched version below, I normally don’t type enough to worry about correcting minor mistakes or worry about tightening things up but for this I did. My original is below!

Why I’ve Lost Any Hope Hive Has a Bright Future! Only Saying This Out Loud Because I Love Y’all and Think We Gotta Be Honest!

All I see is the bigger whales voting for the same accounts and DHF proposals that they did before, with no receipts ever shown. Makes me wonder why. The smaller accounts who get about $10 on regular posts, 75 percent of them use multiple 2,500 delegations just to get a vote. If Leo votes them, there’s a 99 percent chance they’re paying a monthly subscription for that vote. It tends to be 75 percent of votes that are “bought,” either from delegating or buying straight up.

Even great people I consider friends are doing this, and I just don’t get it. Multiple accounts even get 90 percent of their daily post rewards from delegations or buying through Leo subscriptions. What’s the point? Some have interaction, some don’t. I just don’t get it. I understand why someone in a third world country would post for pennies a day just to get some value, but I don’t understand the huge group that posts daily with no interaction just to get 90 percent of votes from accounts that only vote in exchange for delegations.

This is exactly what Steemit turned into years ago, and it was obvious nobody read or commented on those posts. Accounts would leave 10K Steem powered up and delegate most of it out to get votes for every daily post. The Steem price collapsed far more than any rewards added up to, and it was a totally bad bet over years. Most of these are Hive users who post over there just to get these “owed” daily votes, but again, if they had just sold that Steem and powered it down, they’d be way ahead dollar-wise. It’s like a weird addiction to the visual effect of seeing value on each post, but long term it’s moronic.

I’m obviously not saying Hive is in the same boat right now. Hive has real interaction and other projects running on it. Still, it’s concerning to see so many accounts posting only for 90 percent bot votes like SGS or Ed’s, where you max out at a 2,500 Hive delegation and get a daily vote. SGS is a gated community and you must be a member, but it’s literally just an auto-vote from a bot. You can post two sentences and get it. This leads to people mailing in posts daily because they feel if they don’t post, they’re missing out on something “owed” to them. This doesn’t end well.

I love many Hive accounts, but the overall community seems stuck pretending Hive is growing and everything is fine. It’s not. We’re bleeding activity, the DHF is full of waste and abuse, and nothing changes. I stopped delegating to SGS and Ed’s months ago and I don’t mind the reduction in votes. If I’m going to criticize it, I don’t want to be a hypocrite.

Bottom line, smaller accounts feel split between people posting for fun and entertainment and people doing it as a routine, mailing in posts just to get “owed” votes. To anyone new, this looks ridiculous. Like, welcome! Most of what you see is bot votes where people lock up Hive in delegations in exchange for one daily vote. It feels like we’re heading for disaster, and even many good people are stuck in the mindset of “post whatever, I want my daily vote.” There are exceptions, obviously, but it’s a large group doing this.

Onto the devs. At Hive Fest 2025, a DHF-funded dev proclaimed that HBD was soon going to be one of the most widely used stablecoins and that the Bitcoin network would pick HBD as its main stablecoin. This is beyond nonsensical and false. It’s not just foolish. HBD has no future as a widely used business stablecoin. HBD had a reasonable purpose: issuing part of rewards in something stable. Now the community proclaims it’s completely safe and the peg will never break. Most algorithmic or artificially pegged tokens failed. The market chose centralized, value-backed stablecoins.

We as a community could deal with this if whales and devs just admitted where we actually are. Hive is not in a good place. If we admitted that, we could change course. Instead, we get a fake, ridiculous narrative that we’re growing and doing great. No, we are not.

We need a total rebranding and a total admission of reality. I don’t see that ever happening. I love many people here, but I can’t sit and watch the nonsense anymore.

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 7 hours ago (edited)

Everytime I hear people talking about the future of hive, I ask myself why I came to hive. The answer is that my thoughts will be preserved on a distributed blockchain that can survive me. The economic thrive to keep Hive alive might not need of a huge revolutionary success to achieve that goal. As long as there are non destructive witnesses deleting or actively powering down. I think my content will be preserved.

I understand your point but even if there are parasites and not so low bleeding of capital from the Hive ecosystem. I keep thinking that the community and witnesses are still willing to participate and throw hardware into the chain so my goals are still a priority. I would need to talk to the Hive high council and whales how far are them from shutting their servers down, but I think for now, we are safe.

It's not a small group that's brought me here. It's 99% the community accepting DHF fraud & waste as ok & devs & witnesses refusing to even acknowledge there claims are nonsense. Like I said I'll stick around part time, but no longer will I invest time daily like I have for 8 years. Just saw many regular users leave without saying this stuff, I felt like speaking up. The problem isn’t a group milking rewards for bot votes regularly, it’s that it’s most the community doing this and even devs & witnesses refuse to acknowledge we need change to stop this bleeding of users & crushing value of our token. I very much appreciate your take and you leaving a thoughtful comment 👍

Oh & No doubt even after they go, hobbyists will run nodes. No decentralized cryptos just fail & go to zero. They go to .000355 cents and hobbyists run nodes. They don't stop, they just drift into being obscure and disappear from most peoples minds.

 7 hours ago (edited)

I understand what are you saying, but what will be the outcome of all this? Going to zero? Will we reach zero? Will people fork? Will fork work out? What about parallel communities like Leo, like SportWach, like Blocktunes, or Splinterlands which have their own tokens and economy? Will the Hive blockchain stop if we reach $0?

BTW my take is to switch to the Hive standard. Where the DHF payout is done on Hive and not HDB and is your best interest for Hive to keep it's market price or keeps growing if you want your project to benefit from it.

It will be going sub penny I believe, zero no, but failed cryptos don’t go to zero, hobbyists somewhere run nodes and it slowly goes to sub penny and just into obscurity. Goes to .00023533 and pumps 800% as random people trade tiny cap tokens but stays sub penny and just moved up & down. I am keeping 2500 Hive loaded up on an alt account and will do long leases with it. If I’m wrong I’ll have a little stake left in game. I just don’t like what I’m seeing and believe it’s going down into obscurity next two years. I made plenty selling a lot of hive I bought in 2020 & early 2021 between .09 & .18 cents , selling at $3.33 a portion & rest between $1.80 & $2.85 as I powered down 100K hp in late 2021 after we went to ridiculous levels I thought were way higher than fair. So I’m well into house money, but I still feel like taking some stake off table to vote my displeasure.

I actually love that! Hive instead of HBD for everything possible I’m down with 100%! Couldn’t agree more!

I hear you mate.
Personally never saw hive more then an add-on on my overal activity.
What brought me here and keeps me engaging is mainly risingstar game but I already witnessed plenty of unpleasant situations which keeps me from investing more time and effort.
Keeping it focused on music and game.

Que sera sera, I sincerely hope this blockchain has some future.
I like your posts and sentiment.

All the Best.

I stopped believing it was anything unintentional a few years ago.
Nothing is to be allowed to disrupt the value transfer trade.

The order has been given.
Soak up as much as possible, as long as possible.

I don't see any actions being taken to make me change my mind.

100%

Hive Watchers and friends made a damage in Millions in market cap with attacking users posting "no mainstream opinions".

The downvote system is retarded. If Users dont enjoy, they leave. Still wonder why i am here ( maybe because there is currently no other chain that offers social experience).

If Hive would follow Internet theory like "all Information on it handled neutral" and front ends sort them out like search engines, would make the game different. The Curration part made hive always retarded.

“Nothing is to be allowed to disrupt the value transfer trade.”

I might be slow, but what’s this mean exactly?
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Just what it says, the value transfer space has an owner.
It is not looking for others to compete with them.

But what exactly? Like sucking value off hive? What methods?

You've been here long enough to know what our issues with retention are/have been.
Why do you figure the offer has always been like it, lump it, or provide exit liquidity to people reaping the inflation as hard as they can?

I think we need another Ralley Car.. I think we should have tried to work with JS instead of just forking off and doing it own thing.. and if we were gonna do that we should have burned the ninja mine. That's just to much money for 20 people to be trusted with. Also witness vote are retarded. 1 account should get 1 vote. Of course there still possibility for making 6,471 accounts.. also I believe they need to do away with the downvote.. new people don't stand a chance once they start catching flags.. I'll still keep posting daily.. but I expect the chain will break once there's no longer people interested in buying

Good points all around brother!
I’m not disappearing, just gonna switch from daily to part time. I fucking hate seeing the devs & witnesses not even acknowledge where things are at! Thought why not speak up.
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I get it. I didn’t believe .10 would break. I only added my hp months ago. I know you are not talking price mostly, it’s just I believe these are related. I have taken a third my stake off and sold it at .10 before dip. I’m sticking around. I do see most the points made though.
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Check Beatroot soup podcast latest episode, they talk about Hive Spending and what it can be done.

Beautiful, basically 3 millions dollars a year spend in absolute bullshit.

If these spendings are not stopped this chain is dead i'm sorry. It's plain robbery.

I will not invest anymore until I know these fundings are 100% cut and people with sense of money management get in charge.